Is an MPC worth it?

[positive]

Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't use an mpc) but they don't come with those fat, grimey drum sounds you hear and associate with "MPC beats". I don't think they really come with many sounds at all. Only reason I'm saying this is cause you said something about "wanting those MPC drums". I'm pretty sure all those drum sounds that we hear and think "MPC drums" are manually lifted off of records

To my knowledge the only thing better about an MPC, than reason for example, is the reknown Akai pattern swing. I'm pretty sure that's the only thing that you can't get with reason. (other than the fact that, yes, it's more hands on and funner to use)

Like I said: PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG cause I've thought about getting an MPC lots of times, but have always come to the conclusion that it's not worth dropping a g when I can emulate the MPC with reason. Besides, can't you get an Akai groove machine that has the same swing as the MPC?

[semantik]

Originally Posted by positive

Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't use an mpc) but they don't come with those fat, grimey drum sounds you hear and associate with "MPC beats". I don't think they really come with many sounds at all.

Only reason I'm saying this is cause you said something about "wanting those MPC drums".

To my knowledge the only thing better about an MPC, than reason for example, is the reknown Akai pattern swing. I'm pretty sure that's the only thing that you can't get with reason. (other than the fact that, yes, it's more hands on and funner to use)

Like I said: PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG cause I've thought about getting an MPC lots of times, but have always come to the conclusion that it's not worth dropping a g when I can emulate the MPC with reason. Besides, can't you get an Akai groove machine that has the same swing as the MPC?

I've more associated the MPC with the swing feature, which can be emulated by Reason's Regroove. With regards to the "MPC sound", people have different opinions of it's sampling engine. I think the argument really comes down to a basic hardware vs. software issue.

[positive]

How does the regroove work? Do you know? I've been using Reason for a long time and have never used it. I use the pattern shuffle, which is like swing, but what's this regroove?

[positive]

Originally Posted by semantik

I've more associated the MPC with the swing feature, which can be emulated by Reason's Regroove. With regards to the "MPC sound", people have different opinions of it's sampling engine. I think the argument really comes down to a basic hardware vs. software issue.

I have an super old tape deck that can record through. I've been thinking about running my signal through the tape into my soundcard. I wonder if I'll get more of a "hardware sound" that way.

If it's the hardware sound you're looking for, could you sample into the MPC, then dump it into the cpu to produce? Do you think you'd get the same result? Because regardless what you do, that MPC track is eventually going to end up in digital, right?

[[grimeshine]]

First and foremost, ill start out by saying when i bought my mpc, it completely turned me around. I am 100x the producer i ever was before i owned one.

However, Akai was bought out by numark. So the guys who were makin the mpc 60 and the 3000 for all those grimey ass hip hop producers dont even make the mpc anymore. The 3000 and the 60 recorded in a low bitrate, and made the drums sound super gritty and raw. Which is where the term 'mpc drums' got started.

And as far as the swing feature goes, there really isnt much special. I never even use it, its very rare i ever quantize my drums on it, and the swing can be easily reproduced as its not patented or anything.

In reality MPC cant do anything more than any DAW or piece of hardware out there. its just what works for YOU. I was surprised that the mpc was right for me. ive been a computer guy all my life, and ive worked with alot of software, but as soon as i made the change ill never go back.

[positive]

I looked up "regroove" online. I think I just found my reason to upgrade to reason 4

[p.illa]

Originally Posted by [grimeshine]

The 3000 and the 60 recorded in a low bitrate, and made the drums sound super gritty and raw. Which is where the term 'mpc drums' got started.

Ight, I apreciate you guys help, I think were getting somewhere...If I understand what yall are sayin';

1) The MPC doesn't come with drum sounds, you have to upload them, right. 2) And also, the MPC does make the drums sound "gritty and raw", correct?

I apologize for sounding ignorant on the subject but I've been trying so hard to get that raw Kick and Snare for my beats and just tweackin nobs on Reason just wont do the trick. So please elaborate on these 2 statements...if there correct.

[[grimeshine]]

yo.

nope, they dont phsically have any hardware in them that make drum sounds gritty. However, ive noticed that because of the easy hands on approach, it really gives me the incentive to make my drums raw and grimey.

And after i made my first beat on the mpc (with the preloaded sounds, just to learn the mpc) I immediately deleted them all. it really takes a lot of work to find dope drums. Ive recently completely stopped searching for drums, because i found one pack that is the most amazing pack ive ever heard, and with layering i can make a million different sounds, and never have i had more confidence in my drum game in my life.

tell you what, i really like you man. hit me up tomorrow on PM and ill be on my studio comp and ill up those drums and post em on this site. they are insane.

[p.illa]

Yeh I tried the "layering of drums" and I still get that "9th Wonder muffled drum sounds", (no disrespect to 9th Wonder). All I need now, is to find a way to channel an MPC to Reason and only use it for my drums, if you guys have any suggestion on how to do it let me know.

[milkman]

yo Grime - I'm interested in those drums as well... that'd be great if you could send them my way.